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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 30 Dec 2013, 13:19

I'm curious to know if Peter :) updates LOffice for example. there is higher version at backports, and heigher at PL3.

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Re: backports

Postby Pinkeye » 30 Dec 2013, 20:19

I don't understand why Point compiles its own version when one is already in the backports, this work is redundant and looks like nonsense to me.
Plus it makes using backports repo more complicated, because you don't know if something clashes.

I personally think Point would be better off with more vanilla Debian repos. Use your own only for your customization and for programs that are not in the Debian´s. It takes less time ans less work, those can be used somewhere actually productive.
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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 31 Dec 2013, 04:08

Pinkeye, I think it is a little misunderstanding. firstly there were no LO4 in either stable or bacports repo. now there is. moreover not all software from backports works good (I tried exaile from backports and had to go back because one small detail. next, I installed newer kernel. but some drivers were missing. since that applications from backports are not automatically installed. on the other hand pulseaudio works much better). so sometimes some software seems to be redundant. we can't see all reasons of this fact.

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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 04 Jan 2014, 11:04

to end libreoffice subject. of course it can be updated from the backports if the repo
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deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free#Backports
is added to our source list (I'm also using non-free since I had to upgrade non-free firmware).
after apt-get update we can install new (4.1.4.2) LO suite
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sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports libreoffice

since the installation deletes some packages (for previous version) we have to add them once more
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sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-gnome

I also noticed two (?) packages were in non-appropriate version, so once more
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sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports libreoffice-style-tango fonts-opensymbol

I hope that's all. I can't check language packages (I'm not using them. language tools - dictionaries, language rules - do not depend on LO version).

analogously the newest LO can be installed in PL3.01b1 from standard jessie repository.

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Re: backports

Postby zebedeeboss » 11 Jan 2014, 08:17

Hi

I would like to install the latest version of Mixxx DJ software - but I do not want to compromise an excellent system.

Whats the best way to achieve this please.

Mixxx site is very good but only seems to give Ubuntu type instructions about adding

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sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mixxx
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libportaudio2 mixxx


Don't want to do this - if its plainly wrong

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Re: backports

Postby Pry » 11 Jan 2014, 08:52

Hello, zebedeeboss!

Unfortunately the app devs have the Ubuntu only version. Point Linux is Debian not Ubuntu based. Debian does not support ppa (thanks God!). In theory it is possible to install software from ppa, in practice - you can face version conflicts or missing deps problems.

UPDATE: It looks like I've found a solution! In your /etc/apt/sources.list add (assuming you're on Point Linux 2.2):
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deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mixxx/mixxx/ubuntu oneiric main

then
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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install mixxx libportaudio2

I haven't installed it, but it looks like it is possible this way. But I repeat again, it's not a Debian way. ;)
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Re: backports

Postby zebedeeboss » 11 Jan 2014, 09:10

Hi Pry

Thanks for the reply

guess I Should add a signature - I am using Point Linux 3 Beta 1 - its awesome - so will leave well alone

Current Mixxx works fine - just missing one or two handy features - but its not the end of the world.

Stability is better than cutting edge

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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 16 Jan 2014, 17:23

due to some technical needs I'm trying to install newer kernel image from backports. I installed before without problems. and now :o . I can install kernel image (3.11) but can't install appropriate headers. linux-kbuild for 3.11 disappeared. there is image, headers, kbuild for 3.12 but meta there are no meta-packages (linux-image-amd64, linux-headers-amd64) for the said kernel.

my question is if I can install exact packages (for 3.12 kernel) without upgrading meta-packages? or should I wait for all? interesting (for me) problem :evil: .

at the moment I upgraded only linux-image-amd64 (with dependencies) and some firmware drivers. works fine. and probable header is not needed for standard work. is it true?

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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 17 Jan 2014, 07:31

at the moment I'm using 3.12 kernel from (wheezy) backports.
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$ uname -a
Linux asupo 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.6-2~bpo70+1 (2014-01-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux

kernel, headers and some firmwares installed without any issue. works fine.

of course I keep old kernel too.

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Re: backports

Postby Maroman » 20 Jan 2014, 17:40

yesterday in backports repo I noticed updated packages linux-image|headers-amd64. I was able to fully upgrade kernel 3.12 and delete the old one (3.2). works fine.

here http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.12 is info on improvements.

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